. ♪ it's not rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. >>> the key issue in the trayvon martin case has been, is it about race? the judge in the case has kept all talk of race out of the courtroom. joining me now, the author of ending racism in post racial america. welcome to you again. obviously, although race, everyone's trying to exclude it from this case, it's been hanging there as an overbearing presence, hasn't it? >> it has been hanging there, it's been there since the beginning, there are two cases, the cases before the jury, and the case of public opinion. and in the case before the jury, it's been very subtle, but race has been there. so you can say profiling, you can't say racial profiling. the blacks have been removed from the jury, but it's not because they were black. it's because the rules permitted it. so underlying both of those examples is race. and it seems like people don't want to consider that possibility. >> what do you think the verdict is likely to be where -- given what we are at the moment, i